Both this fragment and the previous Plate seem to be very early, although C.G. Ellis, perhaps the most famous carpet researcher of the second half of the 20th century, characteristically placed them quite a bit later into the 17th Century. He also theorized they had possibly been produced in India. However, this writer feels Ellis has mis-dated them by at least a century, as their archaic look gives us insight into what the interim period carpet style between the late Timurid and early Safavid periods might have looked like.